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Message Board - archive 34
From: Geoff Robinson
Email: geoffrob@mypostoffice.co.uk
Subject:Coppola and variations
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 17:07:18
Hello Tony,
I believe you once met my nephew, Nick Robinson, who is in the music industry ( Movin' Music ), one time with your brother. A couple of years ago. At least Nick says so!
I have found that my great grandfather was Philip COPELA. That was the spelling on his marriage certificate of 1876. He was an ice-cream maker and vendor and had an ice-cream and soft drinks parlour in Butler Street, Ancoats.
But the name subsequently underwent changes. His children's names have been registered as:
Anthony CAPOLA ( birth ) 1877
Anthony COPPELLA ( first marriage ) 1898
Anthony COPPELLER ( second marriage ) 1927
Philomena COPELA ( birth ) 1879
Philomena COPPELLA ( marriage ) 1904
Angelo COPPELLA ( birth ) 1883
Angelo COPPOLA ( marriage ) 1912
Mary Elizabeth COPPELLA ( birth ) 1891
Mary Elizabeth COPPELLA ( marriage ) 1915
I guess the names were written by the registrars who just had to their best with these Italian names.
It's a great website.
Geoff Robinson
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From: Geoff Robinson
Email: geoffrob@mypostoffice.co.uk
Subject:My Copela ancestors
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:22:23
In 2004 I contacted this site at the outset of my search for my Italian ancestors. I got a lot of help from Trevor Hancocks, but have since lost contact with him. With his help I traced my old folks to the early 1800's. And now I am finding their families right up to the 1970's! Great site. Never give up. Where are you, Trevor ?
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From: Amanda Penson
Email: amro10@btopenworld.com
Subject:ArcarI Family
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 16:02:02
I don't know if anyone can help but I am trying to trace my Aunt. She was BEATRICE PENSON born in 1904, and lived in Manchester. she married a VINCENT ARCARI in 1929 in London. His father was PHILLIP ANTHONY ARCARI. (As shown on wedding certificate). I realise this is a long shot but I just wonder about the Manchester connection. Any help would be gratefully appreciated. Thank you
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From: Win Flamma
Email: wflamma@direct.ca
Subject:Giuseppe Rea
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 22:26:40
Hello Tony
Do you by chance have Giuseppe Rea in your family tree. Giuseppe married Anna Ciarella in Ramsgate, Kent in 1895. Giuseppe's age recorded in the marriage certificate is 21 and his father's name Antonio.
Regards, Win Flamma
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From: Stephen Wood
Email: stevewoodwoozkh@supanet.com
Subject:information regarding Family Tree
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:06:14
I am trying to compile my family tree, but I am struggling on my Grand parents side! They came from italy in the early 1900's my grandmothers name was Desolina Maria Toboni and my Grandfather was Giovanni Serventi.I Think they lived in Manchester to start with where My Aunty and Mother, Aurelia and Sylvia were born. They later moved to Leeds where my Grandfather opened his business laying Terrazzo floors and tiling. just before the war they changed there name to Senior.They also had a son called John.I would be grateful
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From: Peter Mancini
Email: peter_mancini2003@hotmail.com
Subject:family history
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 10:58:03
I am seeking information about the mancini family who lived in settefratti and pinicisco about 1850 and some of whom emigrated to the uk about 1875 and in particular my grandfather who came to the uk about 1905. your sincerely peter mancini
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From: Nicholas Ciarella
Email: nchlscrll@aol.com
Subject:CIARELLA
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:38:12
My surname CIARELLA is uncommon and so if there is anyone reading this who has possibly any connection please get in touch.I believe that one of my ancestors Pasquale Ciarella married a Gizzi in Ancoats Manchester about 1880.The Ciarella's came from San Gennaro,near Picinisco.
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From: Brian Parker
Email: sueandbrianparker@btinternet.com
Subject:rocca family
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 15:51:32
I WONDER IF ANYONE CAN HELP. MY MOTHER WAS CALLED ROCCA AND CAME FROM ANCOATS. THERE WERE THREE SISTERS-NORA,OLIVE AND MADELINE (MADGE). THERE WAS ALSO A BROTHER LOUIS WHO EMIGRATED TO AUSTRALIA IN THE I940S OR 50S. CAN ANYBODY TELL ME ANYTHING OF THE FAMILY HISTORY? I HAVE NO IDEA OF MY GRANDPARENTS CHRISTIAN NAMES.
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From: James Myers
Email: james.myers@ymail.com
Subject:Thank you
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:01:10
Dear Anthony, Just like to say many thanks for your time with this web site. People today don't seem to have the time for each other. Ancoats inc little Italy for me and my family Mary & Jim Myers are proud of Ancoats, not for the area it was but the great people that made it. Thank you once again always think of Granellis, God Bless James Myers Ancoats Lad.
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From: Simon Speake
Email: sispeak@hotmail.com
Subject:Italian Billiards (strange request)
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:49:01
Hello there, a rather bizarre one, I know, but I don't suppose that anyone has any idea of where I would be able to play Italian Billiards (5-pin billiards / Goriziana / Boccette / etc) in the Manchester area? My good friend, an ex-pat Italian, is desperatly missing these games, and I would dearly love to suprise him by finding somewhere where it may be possible to play. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Many thanks, Simon
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From: David McNamara
Email: davidmcnamara@live.co.uk
Subject:Politi family in Manchester
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 12:52:47
My grandmother was Louisa Politi, born in Ancoats in 1897. I have traced many of her Manchester forebears back to Celestino Politi who was born in 1800 and who died in 1850. Does anybody have any information about the Politis that would enable me to extend my research?
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From: John Treasure
Email: treasurej@tiscali.co.uk
Subject:Cesario, Giuseppe Mancini
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2008 20:41:39
Hello, My name is John Treasure, my Grandfather came into this country
at about the turn of the century or just after. His name was Fiore Cesario
and he came from the Naples area? he did not show up on 1901 census for
some reason or other, he may not have even been in the country at that
time. He married and settled in Northwich where he lived out the rest
of his life until his death in 1942. The name as you might have guessed
was phonetically written for him a few times because of his language and
illiteracy problems in the early years ,and his children were christened
and registered in various stages as Cesario, Tressura and eventually Treasure.
The reason I link him to Ancoats is that when he married to an Irish girl
in 1906 one of his witnesses was a Giuseppe MancinI who did show up in
the census along with his family, in Jersey St. Ancoats. I think Fiore
was the only one of his family to come over here, as yet I have not been
able to discover where exactly he was from , still looking though. Any
knowledge of the name Cesario or of Giuseppe MancinI would be appreciated.
Regards John Treasure
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From: Win Flamma
Email: wflamma@direct.ca
Subject:Giuseppe Rea
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 22:26:40
Hello Tony
Do you by chance have Giuseppe Rea in your family tree. Giuseppe married Anna Ciarella in Ramsgate, Kent in 1895. Giuseppe's age recorded in the marriage certificate is 21 and his father's name Antonio.
Regards, Win Flamma
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From: Susan Barber
Email: suebbill@hotmail.com
Subject:mancinI family
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 18:45:08
I am looking for any member of the mancinI family. My family came over here and lived in jersey street.
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From: Cristina
Email: infopoint@infinito.it
Subject:scambio link
Date: 4 Oct 2008 23:09:39
salve, mi chiamo Cristina e insieme a mio padre gestiamo un piccolo albergo famigliare al centro di Roma. Sarebbe gentile fare uno scambio di link http://www.mclink.it/com/travel/ Anche la nostra famiglia è sparsa per il mondo! Saluti da Roma a tutti gli italiani che vivono fuori
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From: Sue
Email: lil_mizfit@hotmail.com
Subject:Bacigalupo
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2008 03:47:44
Firstly congratulations on a truly magnificent website. I arrived on your website after it came to my attention that one side of my family tree originated from Italy, your site only intrigued me more after discovering the name I am researching listed on your site. The Bacigalupo/Bacigalupa/Bachegalup`s did originally come from Manchester before settling in Leigh Greater Manchester, at which time Frederick (the head of household in the 1901 census returns) was still listed as being an `ice cream hawker`. After this the ice cream connection to the family seem`s to disappear. I would love to know more about this family as i`m afraid that is where my knowledge of them begins and ends? Please please if any readers can enlighten me on the history of this family I would be ever grateful.
Thanks in advance, Sue.
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From: Debra D’Annunzio
Email: dmdanunz@hotmail.co.uk
Subject:New book - Liverpool’s Italian Families
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2008 20:41:50
My name is Debra D’Annunzio and I have just completed my first book entitled Liverpool’s Italian families. My own family were part of the pioneering immigrants that came to Liverpool from Atina in the Comino Valley and developed the slum area to the rear of William Brown Street into a thriving cultural melting pot of ice cream vendors, mosaic layers and musicians.
Even though there isn’t an area dedicated to the Italians as such any more I feel its my duty to bring the vibrancy back and encourage all the descendants of the Italian immigrants to be aware of their families struggles during the 19th century and become a part of the Italian culture once more through gatherings, festivals and of course literature.
Yours Debra
please follow the link to the Daily Post newspaper
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From: Phill
Email: munklefish@munklefish.co.uk
Subject:'Butty Bar +' Building Petition
Date: 1 Oct 2008 11:35:38
Hi,
I have set up a petition with regards to the old 'Butty Bar' building on Pickford St.
This building was subject to a compulsory purchase order approx 5 years ago, but the NWDA / New East Manchester, still dont have any plans for it. The building is in a state of disrepair and really isnt in keeping with the redevelopment of the Ancoats area. The petition aims to get support to encourage the NWDA to get plans drawn up and submitted for the building, whilst having the building and grounds tidied up in the short term. I would be grateful if you could spread the word to others and promote the petition on your website.
You can find the petition at: http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/remove-the-butty-bar.html
Many Thanks Phill
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From: Debra d'Annunzio
Email: dmdanunz@hotmail.co.uk
Subject:italian book
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 22:06:10
http://www.scottiepress.org.uk/
hi please follow this link and click on my photo in the top right corner
and view my forthcoming book on Liverpool's Little Italy.
Debra D'Annunzio
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From: Tracey Colaluca
Email: colaluca@themutual.net
Subject:Colaluca
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2008 18:10:05
hi Thank you so much for your great website. My great grandfather Guiseppe Colaluca born c1851 son of Raffaele Colaluca (sometimes spelt Colalucca) emigrated from Atina in Italy to Deptford, London sometime in the late 19th century. He and his wife (Domenica nee Mella) had five children - Raffael (born in Paris), Vittoria, Celestina, Michele and Antonio (my grandfather). In the 1901 census he is recorded as an Ice Cream Maker and Vendor and Employer based at home in Church Street, Deptford. His eldest two children are recorded as Ice Cream vendors and he has 3 other employees recorded as Ice Cream vendors and servants living at the same address. Their names are: Tom Jackman, Gaidano Di Dura, and Payquale Agonelli (not sure of the writing in the last two cases!) The last two names are recorded as Italian subjects. I would be interested to know if there are any connections to the Colalucas in Manchester. Thank you.
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From: Alan Lewis
Email: Albertalan8@aol.com
Subject:'The past'
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 18:00:05
To who recieves this message/story: I recently received copies of the 'Have Your Say' Magazine and I have just reread the article about 'The Italian Walks' in Manchester. WHY AM I WRITING TO YOU. In the 1950's-early 1960's I used to take part in the Whit Walks in Manchester. On Trinity Sunday's I took part in the Italian Walk as one of the Brass Band players which preceeded the parade, the Brass Band was either 'Beswick Prize/Silver Band' or St. Mary's Church Band from Beswick. (read last paragraph below). The Italian Walk on Trinity Sunday was,'Fantastic', the carrying of the Statutes, the floweral creations and more so the colourful traditional dresses worn by the Ladies. I have not lived in M/cr since 1966 and so upon reading the magazine and to read that the 'Italian Walks'are still taking place is good. My uncertainty about which Brass Band I was in at the time is mainly because of (my) age etc. I was originally with St. Mary's Band before joining Beswick Prize/Silver Band. With St. Mary's Band we would lead our own Church on Whit Sunday and Whit Monday, Whit Friday and Trinity Sunday we would lead St. Brigids Church in Bradford. With both Churches one day would be the walks to Albert Square and the next around the Parishes. I don't go back to M/cr all that often but when I do I take a little walk past the 'Italian Church' (as I call it) in Ancoats. Alan A. Lewis
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From: Bill Baird
Email: christinab@hotmail.com
Subject:Bird in Hand / Joe Martin
Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 23:50:46
Dear Tony,
My name is William Martin Baird I have been looking for information regarding my mother's italian side of the family. Her maiden name Martin she lived at 7 Jersey street, Ancoats lane. My Grandmother had the Bird in Hand on Ancoats Lane. I was wondering if you new anymore details regarding them? My uncle Joe Martin use to play with Rudy MancinI in the Band on the Wall around about 1942. could you give me any information on this matter
Kind regards
Bill Baird
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From: Carol Haigh
Email: cazzandy51@yahoo.ca
Subject:Fantastic website
Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2008 14:57:09
My father and his family were brought up in the Ancoats area of Manchester and he used to tell me all about the Italians who had settled there. Especially the ice cream! I can remember as a small child in the Manchester area hearing the ice cream man and his bells! Now I know where all those great names originate from. Great site!
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From: Steff and Kath
Email: kitty_24@hotmail.co.uk
Subject: rea arpino
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:20
Hello Tony,
My name is Kath and my partner it Stefano Rea, his father is from Arpino and we have been looking on your website today and found it very interesting.
I was wondering if you could help us, when Steff has been to Arpino in the past he has been in the Le-Zoppo hotel for a meal etc and the owner is also called Rea, he had a Rea coat of arms and the history of the name in a frame behind the bar. Would you know where we could purchase something simular?
we have searched on a few sights and we come up with the Scottish version.
Steff lives in the North East of England Newcastle-Upon -Tyne but has family still in Arpino.
Regards
Steff and Kath
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From: Rik
Email: rikh@iinet.net.au
Subject:Gina and Pauline
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:33:47
Hi, Gina or Pauline if you read this message, please email me as I have lost your email address. Ta, Rik. :o)
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